I need HELP!!! Civic EG/ESi - High Lambda rating at idle

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simba1
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Blev medlem: 4 september 2013, 10:22
Bil: Honda Civic 92 ESi - D16z6
Namn: Ethan Emmanuel
Ort: Stockholm

Hi dear Honda fellows! :)

Sorry that my Swedish is not of a very good level to write here so I'll share my problem in English.

I went through besiktning yesterday and had a high lambda rating on idle/tomgång... 1.31 (1.03) :( I noted before that the RPM jumps little higher than normal sometimes when driving... and then goes normal again... I have a 3 inch Jap/sport exhaust... and a Simota cold air intake system (shielded from engine heat)... All the filters are new as well as new oil... I cleaned the throttle body with a MAP sensor cleaner...

Has any of you had the same problem? As I understand correctly... my car is taking low fuel and more air mixtures to give a rating that high. How to get it to normal and clear bilprovning.

Your urgent help will be much appreciated :)

Thanks and cheers!

Ethan
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fonzeka
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Check your exhaust system for any leaks, it's probably sucking in small amount of air which makes the lambda reading go high.
simba1
Inlägg: 14
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Bil: Honda Civic 92 ESi - D16z6
Namn: Ethan Emmanuel
Ort: Stockholm

fonzeka skrev:Check your exhaust system for any leaks, it's probably sucking in small amount of air which makes the lambda reading go high.
Thank you Anders! :) I will have that checked right away! But what about the jumping/not so regularly-smooth RPM...? there have been times when it hit 2200-2400RPM in stopped traffic... :/
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Alex_s
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Rpm problem might be caused by a vacuum leak? or maybe a bad throttlebody/intake gasket?
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simba1
Inlägg: 14
Blev medlem: 4 september 2013, 10:22
Bil: Honda Civic 92 ESi - D16z6
Namn: Ethan Emmanuel
Ort: Stockholm

Alex_s skrev:Rpm problem might be caused by a vacuum leak? or maybe a bad throttlebody/intake gasket?
Thanks Alexander! :) I've been trying the same thought now for gasket and vacuum leak... If im right... there are 2 different air valves on this intake.. (behind the throttle body)... should i check them out? Does this have to do anything with a faulty MAP sensor possibly?
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Bullet---
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Bil: Honda Civic EG K20
Namn: Andre´ Seppä Fritz
Ort: Malmö

simba1 skrev:
Alex_s skrev:Rpm problem might be caused by a vacuum leak? or maybe a bad throttlebody/intake gasket?
Thanks Alexander! :) I've been trying the same thought now for gasket and vacuum leak... If im right... there are 2 different air valves on this intake.. (behind the throttle body)... should i check them out? Does this have to do anything with a faulty MAP sensor possibly?
Its a common problem that the FITV and the IACV can mess upp the idle rpm, happend to alot of people. Even me. There is a thermostat in the FITV under the throttlebody that gets lose inside, its hold in place by a plastic-cup that needs to be cleaned and retightend.
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Check that the o-rings arent damaged, kan be ordered new at a honda-dealer/workshop.
The IACV is very simple to clean, losen the coolant hoses and the 2 screws, spray the inside with brakecleaner till its clean.
And like the others said, check for vacuumleaks and leaks in the exaustsystem.
I found a thread on Honda-tech so you can clean the FITV, step by step.
http://honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=1564019
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simba1
Inlägg: 14
Blev medlem: 4 september 2013, 10:22
Bil: Honda Civic 92 ESi - D16z6
Namn: Ethan Emmanuel
Ort: Stockholm

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simba1 skrev:
Alex_s skrev:Rpm problem might be caused by a vacuum leak? or maybe a bad throttlebody/intake gasket?
Thanks Alexander! :) I've been trying the same thought now for gasket and vacuum leak... If im right... there are 2 different air valves on this intake.. (behind the throttle body)... should i check them out? Does this have to do anything with a faulty MAP sensor possibly?
Its a common problem that the FITV and the IACV can mess upp the idle rpm, happend to alot of people. Even me. There is a thermostat in the FITV under the throttlebody that gets lose inside, its hold in place by a plastic-cup that needs to be cleaned and retightend.
Bild
Check that the o-rings arent damaged, kan be ordered new at a honda-dealer/workshop.
The IACV is very simple to clean, losen the coolant hoses and the 2 screws, spray the inside with brakecleaner till its clean.
And like the others said, check for vacuumleaks and leaks in the exaustsystem.
I found a thread on Honda-tech so you can clean the FITV, step by step.
http://honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=1564019
Thanks a bunch Andre! :) This really helps and explains alot!

Would you happen to know or have access to a complete pictorial on the steps in removing intake manifold and replacing the gasket for a D16Z6?

Have a nice rest-of-Sunday! :D

Cheers!
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Bullet---
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http://www.spoonertuner.com/manuals

Go into that website and download:

Civic 1992-1995 EG3 EG4 EG5 EG6 EG7 EG8 EG9 EH1 EH2 EH3 EH4 EH5 EH8 EH9 EJ1 EJ2
Si B16A2 EDM HELMS
141 MB.

Its a complete workshop-manual from Honda. Its a big help when you need answers and detailed descriptions while working on your car. :)
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Andre´ Seppä Fritz
simba1
Inlägg: 14
Blev medlem: 4 september 2013, 10:22
Bil: Honda Civic 92 ESi - D16z6
Namn: Ethan Emmanuel
Ort: Stockholm

Bullet--- skrev:http://www.spoonertuner.com/manuals

Go into that website and download:

Civic 1992-1995 EG3 EG4 EG5 EG6 EG7 EG8 EG9 EH1 EH2 EH3 EH4 EH5 EH8 EH9 EJ1 EJ2
Si B16A2 EDM HELMS
141 MB.

Its a complete workshop-manual from Honda. Its a big help when you need answers and detailed descriptions while working on your car. :)
Haha :D Wow! Thanks Andre! :D A nice story book for my winter project I guess... :P

Cheers!
Ethan
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